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Industry highlights 

Meeting of the Month - November 2019.

The next meeting of the European IAD Committee will be a call on Tuesday 19 November

This is an important Committee. If you are an IAD and want to be part of it, please contact Ron Delnevo at



Below you will find a discussion on changes to LINKs UK interchange rules.

However, it is not just in the UK that the industry faces changes, which often appear arbitrary.

Many markets are impacted.

The ATMIA is currently investigating, on behalf of Acquiring members, changes in a number of markets, including Ireland.

Some excellent news is that Visa decided, as of June 2019, not to ban direct charges for cross-border cash disbursements at ATMs in Europe.

This means, for example, that a card holder living in Italy - and with a card issued by an Italian bank - can still be charged for a cash disbursement at an ATM in Spain.

The ability to charge in such circumstances is vital to the economics of ATMs and the ATMIA is very pleased that our member Visa has understood this and decided not to impose this inappropriate ban.



Universal Cash Deposit at UK ATMs - and the move to Smart ATMs!

The UK Government rightly made clear in May 2019 that all denomiations of cash - from 1p coins to £50 banknotes - would remain in circulation. However, for circulation of cash to work in practice, the UK public and businesses need to be able to deposit their cash at any ATM that has a deposit facility, rather that having to find a bank branch or ATM operated by the financial institution with which they have an account.

In these days when the number of bank branches is fast declining, it is unrealistic - and very inconvenient - to expect those wishing to deposit cash to search out one of their own bank's ATMs to do so.

The good news is that the UK LINK Network now has a Universal Cash Deposit transaction available to be used. All that is needed now is for all Issuers to adopt the transaction. After that, any ATM Operator can install smart machines anywhere to accept cash deposits from the customers of any Card Issuer. 

However, as of September 2019, no UK card issuer has implemented this vital innovation.

Ron Delnevo wrote to Hannah Nixon, then CEO of the UK Payment Systems Regulator (PSR) (she left this post in April 2019) on a number of occasions, asking for an urgent update on the adoption of Universal Cash Deposit in the UK and asking what Ms Nixon was doing to facilitate adoption. Ron met with the interim CEO of the PSR in late June 2019 to once again discuss this issue - and others. At that meeting, Ron emphasised the need for implementation in 2019, before the position for cash deposits in the UK becomes impossible, especially for busy shops and restaurants.

Ron Delnevo and Debbie Smyth met again with the PSR in October 2019.

Ron also met with the UK Treasury in early September 2017 and again in January, June and November 2018 and in July 2019, at which meetings he asked the Treasury to intervene to ensure this vital transaction is implemented as soon as possible on UK ATMs.

Ron Delnevo and Debbie Smyth met again with the Treasury in October 2019, to urge action to legal protect access to cash and the acceptance of cash.

One worthwhile recommendation to come out of the UK Access to Cash Report, issued in March 2019, is that the Universal Cash Deposit transaction should be implemented by all UK Card Issuers, with LINK creating an interchange to compensate ATM operators who implement the deposit transaction.

Even the Bank of England reportedly backs this recommendation.


However, universal cash deposit at ATMs is only really a first step. What is truly needed is a network of Smart ATMs, strategically located around the UK and providing 99% of the services available at a staffed bank branch.

Every local community in Europe needs at least two Smart ATMs. ATMs are electro-mechanical devices which suffer faults and outages, including cash-outs. Two ATMs is therefore the minimum requirememt for any Community with no bank branch, to provide 24/7 local access to financial services.

Smart ATMs will provide many transactions and one of the most important is cash recycling. This is a progression from simply accepting cash deposits. A cash recycling ATM processes deposited notes, removing those that are damaged or dubious and makes available for withdrawal those notes that are fit for recycling to the public.

Cash recycling is convenient for ATM users and is also ultimately a cost-reduction measure. It cuts down the number of cash deliveries needed to ATMs and ensures that communities have some access to cash, even where for any reason a cash delivery fails to happen.

Any local recycling is good for the environment. Cash recycling can therefore be seen as helping the ATM Industry contribute to making our world a better place in which to live.

In some markets, deposited cash recycled within the ATMs accounts for 60% or more of the cash dispensed.

In many countries, all new ATMs which are being installed are capable of cash recycling. We urgently need to see this trend accelerate to include the UK and the whole of Europe. 

When will the first truly Smart ATM appear in the UK?


Further GREAT news back in August 2019 was that the Scottish Affairs Commitee of the UK Parliament came out strongly in favour of cash-deposit ATMs, asking that the UK government faciliate this innovation nationwide.

The Scottish Affairs Committee Press Report can be read using this link



Payment Choice in Sweden

The ATMIA has been heavily involved in the Nordic Region in recent years, trying to help ensure that both ATMs and cash have a good future

Ron Delnevo appeared at the Nordic Finance Forum in Stockholm on 9 November 2017. His presentation focused on how SmartATMs can replace lost bank branches.

The ATMIA has also been fully involved in Finland, trying to stop the imposition of Disloyalty Fees on bank customers who choose to use non-bank ATMs.

The good news at the end of January 2018 was that the Finnish Financial Services Regulator ruled out the imposition of Disloyalty Fees. THIS IS A BIG WIN FOR THE PUBLIC, INDEPENDENT ATM OPERATORS - AND CASH!

It means that it will remain economic for new ATMs to be installed to meet the cash needs of the Finnish public and businesses.

Government intervention looked unlikely, until very recently. However the following article from Bloomberg, published on 18 February 2018, holds out some hope of government action.

“No cash accepted” signs are becoming an increasingly common sight in shops and eateries across Sweden as payments go digital and mobile. But the pace at which cash is vanishing has authorities worried. A broad review of central bank legislation that’s under way is now taking a special look at the situation, with an interim report due as early as this Summer [2018].

 “If this development with cash disappearing happens too fast, it can be difficult to maintain the infrastructure” for handling cash, said Mats Dillen, the head of the parliamentary review. He declined to give more details on the types of proposals that could be included in the report.

Sweden is widely regarded as the most cashless society on the planet. Most of the country’s bank branches have stopped handling cash; many shops, museums and restaurants now only accept plastic or mobile payments. But there’s a downside, since many people, in particular the elderly, don’t have access to the digital society.

Riksbank Governor Stefan Ingves has said Sweden should consider forcing banks to provide cash to customers. In its annual report on Monday, the Riksbank said the question is what role it should play in a future with even fewer cash payments.

“The Riksbank is carefully analyzing this development,” Ingves said. “Overall, I think we are facing structural changes in areas that have previously been stable. This is a development which will affect all the Riksbank’s departments and we will need to make strategic decisions regarding the way forward.”

“One may get into a negative spiral which can threaten the cash infrastructure,” Dillen said. “It’s those types of issues we are looking more closely at.”

Since this article appeared, a Parliamentary Committee has recommended that bank branches be compelled to offer cash services. This is getting some pushback from the Swedish Banking Association - but it looks likely the politicians will have their way, acting in the Public Interest.

DURING OCTOBER 2018, the Riksbank announced it is minded to mandate that all bank branches accept deposits of cash and dispense cash over the counter.

This would be a huge victory for those fighting on behalf of the Swedish public to ensure cash remains a convenient payment choice in Sweden.

But, of course, this will only happen if the Swedish Government actually acts to enforce cash access - both deposit and withdrawal - at all bank branches.

THE GOOD NEWS AS OF AUGUST 2019 IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS WORKING ON A BILL TO COMPEL ALL BANK BRANCHES TO HANDLE CASH. The ATMIA is in close touch with the Government Official who is preparing the Bill, which should be put before the Swedish Parliament Q4 2019.

Further good news on August 1st is that cash in circulation in Sweden increased last year for the first time since 2007! You can read more by using this link



Limitations on Cash Use in the European Union

A study carried out on behalf of the European Commission and finalised in early 2018, has confirmed that restrictions on payments in cash would not significantly prevent terrorism financing, although the same study indicated that such restrictions could be useful in combatting money laundering. 

As a result of the finding in relation to terrorism, the Commission has decided not to pursue Europe-wide limitations on cash use at this stage. 

You can read more here.

So, good news, but we will need to be alert that this issue may well come up again, given the comment on money laundering. We are in discussion with other interested parties in relation to further potential responses to the Commission.

Also, there has been no indication from the Commission that they will be asking national governments to desist in imposing their own limitatons on cash use. This will need to be discussed with the Commission in due course.


Supporting Payment Choice in the UK

There are on-going discussions within LINK as to the appropriate level of scheme interchange that should apply to cash withdrawals and balance enquiries.

At least one Financial Institution that is a member of LINK was rumoured to want an average 20% reduction of interchange payable, to reduce their own outgoings.

Other members of LINK maintained that there was an established formula for the calculation of interchange and that a 20% reduction in the levels established by using this formula would result in many Free To Use ( non-surcharge) ATMs becoming uneconomic to operate.

Industry estimates are that as many as 8500 Independent Deployers ATMs may be deinstalled in the next 24 months should interchange be reduced by 20%. This amounts to about 1/3rd of the free Independent Deployers ATMs currently operated on the LINK network. In addition, there may well be many bank operated off-branch ATMs that will become uneconomic and need to be removed.

Removals of ATMs on the scale envisaged would severely damage the publics convenient access to cash and threaten financial inclusion. Almost everyone in the UK could be adversely effected but the impact would be particular keenly felt by those on lower incomes or state benefits, who use cash for almost all purchases and find that use a vital tool in their budgeting to live their lives from day-to-day.

The ATMIA is in discussion with a number of Association Members, the UK Government and Financial Services Regulators. The objective is to ensure that the LINK scheme continues on a basis that guarantees, at a minimum, maintenance of current levels of public access to cash and that the level of LINK interchange is set at levels which make the scheme sustainable on a long-term basis.

The ATMIA is working hard to ensure an outcome in the public interest and one that enhances the future role of ATMs and cash in the UK.  Ron Delnevo was interviewed by Eddie Mair on BBC radio on 7 April 2017.  You can hear this here.

In November 2017 this threat re-emerged, with proposals that LINK interchange be reduced by 20%. This would put 20,000 + free UK ATMs at risk. The ATMIA judges this proposal to be as against the Public Interest.

The powerful Treasury Select Committee, the most important Back-Bench Committee of the UK Parliament, has asked for an Independent Inquiry into LINK issiues. Which?, the Association of Convenience Stores,the Federation of Small Businesses and ATMIA have all supported this request.

Though LINK at the end of January 2018 announced a 20% cut in interchange to be made starting with a 5% cut on 1 July 2018, the ATMIA continued to work to ensure a clear vision for the future of the LINK ATM NETWORK is put in place.

You can read more here, in an article by Ron Delnevo, ATMIA Executive Director Europe.

The good news is that LINK decided to limit the definite reduction in interchange to 10%, rather than 20%.This was a vital move by LINK, since industry estimates indicate there were only around 64,000 ATMs in the UK at the end of 2018, down from a high of 70,000. 

However, the terrible news as of May 2019 was that up to 10,000 UK ATMs will be switching from free-to-use to pay-to-use in 2019. ATM operators say this has been forced on them by reductions in LINK interchange.

To put in perspective, this will reduce the number of free-to-use ATMs in the UK by around 20% and see 300 millon or more ATM cash withdrawals disappear in the next 12 months.



The loss of free-to-use ATMs will be particularly badly felt by local independent retailers. The public may well abandon their community stores and travel to find free access to cash. Local shopping may soon collapse due to loss of business, brought about by far less cash circulating in the community.

LINK recently announced that it has created a £2.75 “super premium” interchange, to be paid where a free-to-use ATM achieves less than 200 cash withdrawals per month on average. Industry sources indicate that there are almost no (50 or less) free-to-use ATM in the UK achieving this extremely low level of cash withdrawals. It is difficult to understand, therefore, how this premium can have any meaningful impact on the provision of ATM services in the UK. 

More good news is that UK HM Treasury has announced that it fully supports cash as a Payment Choice.

You can read more about the Treasury announcement here.

The support of the Treasury is very important BUT we need to see the following practical steps:

  • LINK must return to using a transparent and rigorous cost-based method of calculating ATM interchange payments during 2019. This would give ALL ATM operators, including banks, a certainty of revenue that will enable them to invest in the Smart ATM needed to provide Community Financial Services in the UK.
  • LINK must make a legally-binding commitment to providing access to cash at ATMs in every community throughout the UK. There is NO viable alternative.
  • Businesses which accept in-person Payments must be legally obliged to accept  cash. 

Ron Delnevo appeared before the Scottish Affairs Committee of the UK Westminster Parliament on 2nd April 2019. Below is a related newspaper report:

The threat to the UK free-to-use ATM estate is highlighted by this article about Scotland, which includes a forecast that 20% of ATMs North of the Border will switch to pay-to-use in the the next 12 months.

The only way to reverse the trend of a loss of free-to-use ATMs is to insist LINK return immediately to a transparent methodology for setting the level of interchange payments. 




In late July the PSR released a market research report that basically reported that almost everyone in the UK still uses cash. The PSR now seems convinced of the importance of cash BUT it remains to be seen whether they will implement the measures the ATMIA has recommended.

The Treasury is Chairing a Joint Working Group which includes both the Bank of England and the PSR. That Group hopefully will agree that the measures the ATMIA has recommended should start to be implemented in 2019.

The latest Press Release by ATMIA Europe can be read using this link

In October 2019, Barclays reversed their decision to stop their cash accessing cash at Post Offices. A report on this can be read here

Which? the publisher and consumer organiation has firmed up its views since Barclays initial decision

Here's a quote from Which?

“Jenny Ross, Which? Money Editor, said: "This report highlights the fragility of our cash infrastructure in the UK, with no safety net for people affected when a company makes a damaging commercial decision - like Barclays cutting cash withdrawals from the post office network. "Even if Barclays reverses its decision, big questions remain about how we protect the millions of people potentially affected by the double blow of cashpoint and bank branch closures. "It's clear that the industry cannot be relied on to prevent people being stripped of access to cash and vital financial services, so we're calling on the government to urgently intervene with legislation that protects cash for as long as it is needed." “

LINK meantime launched a scheme in October 2019 where communities can apply for an ATM to be installed. There are strict criteria and only £1 Million initially available to fund the ATMs. You can read more here

Ron Delnevo says the LINK scheme it's not enough.

"It's a nice little initiative - and I applaud it - but it's not going to solve the problem," he told Today.

"We've lost 7,000 or 8,000 free ATMs in the last two years and we're going to lose another 2,000 or 3,000 in the next few months."

He favours cash, saying: "Cash is intimate, its warm, its personal, it's all the things we want life to be."




Business Rates on UK ATMs

An appeal to the UK Courts to stop the Valuation Office imposing Business Rates - a property tax - on off-branch ATMs has now been won!

The Court of Appeal found in favour of the ATM industry and its supporters.

Around £300 Million of  business ratepayments are due to be refunded, with the repayments backdated to 2010.

However, ill-advisedly, the Valuation Office Agency has appealed the court ruling.

They certainly should NOT have done so. They were wrong to impose businss rates on ANY ATM in the first place!

We will know by end Q1 2020 whether this wrong-headed appeal succeeds - WATCH THIS SPACE!


Dynamic Currency Conversion

Debbie Smyth and Ron Delnevo, representing the ATMIA, met with the European Commission early in June 2018 to discuss Dynamic Currency Conversion (DCC).

The ATMIA team were delighted to report that, whatever happens in relation to transparency, the Commission has decided not to ask for an interim cap on DCC.

The ATMIA will continue to work with the Commission on every aspect of DCC, with the objective of ensuring this service can continue to be offered at ATMs without the imposition of onerous regulations.

ATM DCC is already significantly more transparent than that offered at POS. The ATMIA believes that if the Commission feels it appropriate to review the workings of DCC at all, the review should focus on the POS situation.

As of March 2019, the regulation has been published, with implementation by April 2020.  We will continue to work to minimise any negative impact for the industry of the new requirements.

Ron Delnevo and Debbie Smyth will be meeting with the European Commission in November 2019 to discuss the implementation of the new regulations.

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